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fihting for obama care instead of fighting for jobs for the american people. >> i have my own plans, not the same as simpson-bowles but in my view the president should have grabbed it if he wanted to make adjustments take it, go to congress and fight it. >> that's what we have done, make adjustments and putting it before congress right now, $4 trillion plan. >> you have been president four years, you have been president four years, you said you would cut the deficit in half, we still have trillion dollars deficits, a we will be have a trillion-dollar deficit each of the four years if you are reelected we will get to a $20 trillion debt. >> rose: it will be seen if romney can keep up the momentum. we begin this evening with analysis of chris matthews of msnbc, welcome. >> thank you, charlie. >> rose: as you watched the debate last night, what was your reaction to what you were seeing, b, why do you think it was that way, and, c, where are we going from here? >> well, i think governor romney knew it would be a wide open format and he came in to take charge. he was a commanding presence
fihting for obama care instead of fighting for jobs for the american people. >> i have my own plans, not the same as simpson-bowles but in my view the president should have grabbed it if he wanted to make adjustments take it, go to congress and fight it. >> that's what we have done, make adjustments and putting it before congress right now, $4 trillion plan. >> you have been president four years, you have been president four years, you said you would cut the deficit in half,...
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obama was in the middle of a sentence. mitt romney interrupted and said, you were president for four years, and the president just said, yep. didn't keep going. didn't say wait a second. i'm still talking. none of that. >> you're right. you know, when the president was looking down, this was a different thing for him, because a lot of the times he has that chin up and he's usually in control and powerful and his body language reflects that. by looking down as well as backing down from those kind of interruptions from mitt romney, and mitt romney did that all night to show how he could be aggressive and assertive and go toe to toe with this president and look presidential. romney was effective in doing that during this debate where the president -- i think his strategy was to be more likeable, and we saw that congruent in his body language, with the head tilts, which are around the idea of likability, which was a big thing toure brought up earlier at the top of the program. >> we saw a lot of the president's stress and disl
obama was in the middle of a sentence. mitt romney interrupted and said, you were president for four years, and the president just said, yep. didn't keep going. didn't say wait a second. i'm still talking. none of that. >> you're right. you know, when the president was looking down, this was a different thing for him, because a lot of the times he has that chin up and he's usually in control and powerful and his body language reflects that. by looking down as well as backing down from...
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it's been four years with obama. how many years do you have to have of him before you make up your mind. there's a lot of information out there. how do you folks get yours? >> jess, why don't you take. >> definitely, i try to -- in today's society i get most of minus through the internet so i typically look at bbc, "new york times", "washington post" -- >> but you still don't think you have enough information? >> there's a lot of information out there and i think most of us agree that really, they've both got good ideas and great candidates but what it comes down to is, which plan the is better for america. ultimately, i'm leaning towards romney but there's still a couple more debates left and -- >> keira you said you don't have enough information. you're a kindergarten teacher here in the denver area. not enough information? there's so much out there. we've been campaigning for a year. >> finding the information that youch can connect with and the information that you can and i'm still looking for that. >> chris, wh
it's been four years with obama. how many years do you have to have of him before you make up your mind. there's a lot of information out there. how do you folks get yours? >> jess, why don't you take. >> definitely, i try to -- in today's society i get most of minus through the internet so i typically look at bbc, "new york times", "washington post" -- >> but you still don't think you have enough information? >> there's a lot of information out there...
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but on medicaid, where romney said it wasn't wouldn't be a cut twould be inflation plus 1% and obama said it would be a 30% cut. there was an independent study by bloomberg. they say that romney's medicaid proposal, $1.26 trillion loss in medicaid over 10 years under the romney plan. so there were facts and some loose arguing of the facts am but an interesting debate. i am not sure a game changer, but a good night for romney, a little less so for the president. >> thank you. bret, at the beginning of the show, you were jealous of me because i was with the action and now you are with the action. >> yes. chris wallace has good analysis and he can pick good times. coming up, charles krauthammer on who came out on top. he joins us after this break. you see us, at the start of the day. on the company phone list that's a few names longer. you see us bank on busier highways. on once empty fields. everyday you see all the ways all of us at us bank are helping grow our economy. lending more so companies and communities can expand, grow stronger and get back to work. everyday you see all of us
but on medicaid, where romney said it wasn't wouldn't be a cut twould be inflation plus 1% and obama said it would be a 30% cut. there was an independent study by bloomberg. they say that romney's medicaid proposal, $1.26 trillion loss in medicaid over 10 years under the romney plan. so there were facts and some loose arguing of the facts am but an interesting debate. i am not sure a game changer, but a good night for romney, a little less so for the president. >> thank you. bret, at the...
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but on medicaid, where romney said it wasn't wouldn't be a cut twould be inflation plus 1% and obama said it would be a 30% cut. there was an independent study by bloomberg. they say that romney's medicaid proposal, $1.26 trillion loss in medicaid over 10 years under the romney plan. so there were facts and some loose arguing of the facts am but an interesting debate. i am not sure a game changer, but a good night for romney, a little less so for the president. >> thank you. bret, at the beginning of the show, you were jealous of me because i was with the action and now you are with the action. >> yes. chris wallace has good analysis and he can pick good times. coming up, charles krauthammer on who came out on top. he joins us after this break. music is a universal language. but when i was in an accident... i was worried the health care system spoke a language all its own with unitedhealthcare, i got help that fit my life. information on my phone. connection to doctors who get where i'm from. and tools to estimate what my care may cost. so i never missed a beat. we're more than 78,00
but on medicaid, where romney said it wasn't wouldn't be a cut twould be inflation plus 1% and obama said it would be a 30% cut. there was an independent study by bloomberg. they say that romney's medicaid proposal, $1.26 trillion loss in medicaid over 10 years under the romney plan. so there were facts and some loose arguing of the facts am but an interesting debate. i am not sure a game changer, but a good night for romney, a little less so for the president. >> thank you. bret, at the...
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. >>> coming up next at 5:00, they've been talking on the campaign trail for more than a year now. now it's time to debate face-to-face. a live report from denver as president obama and governor romney prepare to square off. >>> and a rough day for hewlett-packard. what ceo meg whitman said that scared investors. >>> and good afternoon. i'm jeff ranieri in the nbc bay area weather center. this time yesterday we had 107 in gilroy. today temperatures starting to drop. a lot more comfortable outside, with anywhere from 78 in san jose to 86 in livermore. we're going to talk more about this temperature trend and some big-time changes for your weekend. even our next chance of showers in just a few minutes. >>> 50 minutes and counting. the first debate of the 2012 race for the white house starts at the top of the hour. tonight's theme domestic policy. the 90-minute debate will be divided into six timed segments of approximately 15 minutes each. president obama will get the first question, and mitt romney will get the last word. for the very latest, let's check in with nbc's steve handelsm
. >>> coming up next at 5:00, they've been talking on the campaign trail for more than a year now. now it's time to debate face-to-face. a live report from denver as president obama and governor romney prepare to square off. >>> and a rough day for hewlett-packard. what ceo meg whitman said that scared investors. >>> and good afternoon. i'm jeff ranieri in the nbc bay area weather center. this time yesterday we had 107 in gilroy. today temperatures starting to drop. a...
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president obama has had four years to do it, hasn't done it. and mitt romney will do it day one. >> senator, i think you may have earned yourself as permanent sparring partner preparing for debates. >> thank you. >> candy, we didn't see any big takedown, body-slam moments during this debate. but i was told before this debate got going, preparation pays off. that's the message from the romney campaign tonight, candy. >> i think you're absolutely right, jim. for the talk about the one liners and zingers and this and that. did not hear anything that sort of stuck out as, boy, they were waiting to put that line out there i want to bring in jessica yellin, also in the spin room, i know you are there, with a top adviser in the obama campaign. it would be -- it will be interesting to note. as you know, the initial impression is the president seemed listless, angry at times, seemed like he didn't want to be there. would love to know what the obama campaign is saying. >> that's right, candy. i'm here with stephanie cutter, deputy campaign manager for th
president obama has had four years to do it, hasn't done it. and mitt romney will do it day one. >> senator, i think you may have earned yourself as permanent sparring partner preparing for debates. >> thank you. >> candy, we didn't see any big takedown, body-slam moments during this debate. but i was told before this debate got going, preparation pays off. that's the message from the romney campaign tonight, candy. >> i think you're absolutely right, jim. for the talk...
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the initial result for two years awarded with declining obama approval writing, awarding with huge windfall in the midterms. it made conservatives think the rest of the country is coming to our side u in rating, the midterms explained by how bad the economy was and what we are seeing now, as the economy starts to improve a bit, most americans actually like obama, cheering for him this stuff really seems off note, i think, to the average american. >> owe mama is a divisive figure, constantly pitting one america against the other. in 2007, it was black america against a white government. and knew that he essentially is the government, he is taking that same kind of tactic and he is pitting poor america against wealthy america. the problem with this is that there are actually aggrieved groups, legitimate arguments to be made that the government has neg lengtd the concerns of black america, that our economy has not sufficiently addressed poverty, but you don't put agrieved groups and pit them against one another. that is not what a truly transcendent leader does it is petty, it's small minded,
the initial result for two years awarded with declining obama approval writing, awarding with huge windfall in the midterms. it made conservatives think the rest of the country is coming to our side u in rating, the midterms explained by how bad the economy was and what we are seeing now, as the economy starts to improve a bit, most americans actually like obama, cheering for him this stuff really seems off note, i think, to the average american. >> owe mama is a divisive figure,...
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>> the obama campaign actually did use twitter four years ago which is interesting because not that many of us were on it, and not that many people were paying attention. the romney campaign did something a little more innovative, they talked about how they treated from the former governor's account, which is something they did during the convention, and they got followers. and instead of doing what they normally do, put out all these press releases with rapid response, fact check, they createdda of a tumplr-- >> woodruff: you have to explain for people watching. >> tumblr is a blog site where you can put up a bunch of different messages. for them, they could get their people to spread that to their network. interest will enough, when you looked on facebook, a lot of those posts were trending. it wasn't necessarily the jokes or what coloritize like on twitter. >> ifill: what jokes? did i miss the jokes. >> big bird was the big one. >> woodruff: was there a consensus about who came out on top or both sides arguing for their guy? >> shockingly enough, partisans on each side thought their g
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over the last four years and he will say barack obama made a lot of promises in 2008 and hasn't kept the promises. they don't worry about their are guy being likeable and say the key is to stay on offense. the other battle over the plans for the next four years where o obama will be tough on romney and say this is a guy who wants to give tax cuts to the wealthc and to voucherrize medicare. romney will say he is the defender of the middle class. t both sides say this could get heated tonight. >> chris, thank you. >> good evening. >> we go to jim lehrer of pbs moderating this debate. >> i'm jim lehrer and welcome you to the first of the 2012l presidential debates between president barack obama the democratic nominee and former, massachusetts governor mitt romney the republican nominee. this debate and the next three, two presidential, one vice presidential, are sponsored byo the commission on presidential debates. tonight's 90 minutes will be about domestic issues and will follow a format designed by the commission. there will be six roughly 15 minute segments with two minutt answers f
over the last four years and he will say barack obama made a lot of promises in 2008 and hasn't kept the promises. they don't worry about their are guy being likeable and say the key is to stay on offense. the other battle over the plans for the next four years where o obama will be tough on romney and say this is a guy who wants to give tax cuts to the wealthc and to voucherrize medicare. romney will say he is the defender of the middle class. t both sides say this could get heated tonight....
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so, basically, romney says, obama comes on stage, says 20 years ago i became the luckiest man honor they because michelle obama agreed to marry me. happy anniversary. next year we won't be celebrating in front of 40 million people. mild chuckle. romney, congratulations mr. president on your anniversary. i'm sure this was the most place you could imagine here with me. it was a great line from romney, not known to be funny. >> from the start, i think he picked up. he was able to work than extraordinarily confident fashion. he came in against tight, as mr. lipton indicated he owned that moment, owned that stage. he wanted to own obama with all of those troubling consequences, and he did so, i think, because he presumed that he would tell his facts, he would tell his truth, he would do it with vigor, and you can study every master, you connect emotionally, articulate your viewpoint and people believe in perception of your command. last night he was unquestioned in terms of his supremacy. >> that was significant. while romney was freely contradicting all of the previous romneys, he was unchal
so, basically, romney says, obama comes on stage, says 20 years ago i became the luckiest man honor they because michelle obama agreed to marry me. happy anniversary. next year we won't be celebrating in front of 40 million people. mild chuckle. romney, congratulations mr. president on your anniversary. i'm sure this was the most place you could imagine here with me. it was a great line from romney, not known to be funny. >> from the start, i think he picked up. he was able to work than...
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than the last four years. there was almost no second-term agenda. things that have been -- what is it that obama himself wants to do? certainly in this next debate he's going to be more aggressive. can he be more persuasive about his own plans? >> and mitt romney ought to be more aggressive in pushing the president to talk about his agenda. because of course the president is tying him to the ryan budget, for better or worse, what is he going to do about medicare, what's he going to do about tax reform. it is true that romney hasn't put a lot of meat on the bones when it comes to what he would do to reform the tax code. what deductions would he cap. he started getting at that a little bit this past week. well, then why doesn't he push the president for some more details and the president can push back? i think with the american public, and i think you're 100% right. they want to say okay, where would you take us in the next four years? there's a danger of appearing to be over ambition. >> i think stopping the r
than the last four years. there was almost no second-term agenda. things that have been -- what is it that obama himself wants to do? certainly in this next debate he's going to be more aggressive. can he be more persuasive about his own plans? >> and mitt romney ought to be more aggressive in pushing the president to talk about his agenda. because of course the president is tying him to the ryan budget, for better or worse, what is he going to do about medicare, what's he going to do...
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celebrating it in front of 40 million people. [ laughter ] >> obama: four years ago we went through the worst financial crisis since the great depression. millions of jobs were lost the auto industry was on the brink of collapse the financial system has frozen up and because of the resilience and determination of the american people we have begun to fight our way back. we have seen 5 million jobs in the private sector created. the auto industry has come roaring back and house has begun to rise. but we all know we still have a lot of work to do. so the question is not where we have been but where we're going. governor romney has a perspective that says if we cut taxes, skewed towards the wealthy and roll back regulations, that we'll be better off. i have a different view. i think we have got to invest in education and training. i think it's important for us to develop new sources of energy here in america. that we change our tax code to make sure we're helping small businesses and companies here in the united states, that we take some of the money we're saving as we wind down two wars to
celebrating it in front of 40 million people. [ laughter ] >> obama: four years ago we went through the worst financial crisis since the great depression. millions of jobs were lost the auto industry was on the brink of collapse the financial system has frozen up and because of the resilience and determination of the american people we have begun to fight our way back. we have seen 5 million jobs in the private sector created. the auto industry has come roaring back and house has begun to...
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>> i think what we've seen is a turning here over the last several years, and the obama administration, i mean, last night, he, you know, said oil and gas increased under my watch, which is true, a lot is private initiative, so i think the administration, because of the job aspect of it, because of the economic development aspect, because of what it does to american competitiveness, he's come around to a position to be broadly supportive, differently from romney, but in a way that, you know, some of it -- their own supporters of the administration haven't liked. i mean there's clear differences like the keystone pipeline one area of a very sharp difference. gerri: i want to bring up green energy for a second, spending $90 billion on companies. these a taxpayer dollars, not private sector dollars. is it worth it? >> i think that when you look at the growth that's going to be out there in terms of energy demand, it makes sense to diversify. i think the lesson of the last few years is government has a clear role in terms of research and development, bringing technologies, but when the gov
>> i think what we've seen is a turning here over the last several years, and the obama administration, i mean, last night, he, you know, said oil and gas increased under my watch, which is true, a lot is private initiative, so i think the administration, because of the job aspect of it, because of the economic development aspect, because of what it does to american competitiveness, he's come around to a position to be broadly supportive, differently from romney, but in a way that, you...
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. >> are you going to vote to this year? >> yes, i am going to vote. >> for mitt romney, what loopholes -- >> that's my question, too. >> for president obama, how do you plan on closing the deficit. >> how does the bomb in syria change the policies in the foreign east. >> what? >> turkey and syria, just he is ask lated the syrian conflict. >> what side of the fence are you on? >> i don't have a dog in the race yet. i'm just curious on what the policy will be. >> you're not turkish are you? >> no. >> i've been in health care for 37 years as a provider and i am completely 100% for the affordable health care act. thank you president obama. >> i just want to know what we're going to do about the student's act. >> what percentage do you pay in interest? >> well, mine's a government debt. i don't have any private debt. >> i paid 3% in college. >> happy anniversary, mr. president. >> 20th anniversary. >> who is going to cut the spending? who is it? it's romney. >> can i ask a question, please? >> sure. >> go ahead. i want to know w
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an economic crisis at the kitchen table and energy and passion for two years fighting for obama care instead of fighting for jobs for the american people. it has killed jobs, and the best course for health care is do what we did in my state. craft a machine at tplan at the that fits the needs of the state and focus on getting costs down for people, rather than raise it for a $2,500 additional premium. >> mr. president, the argument against repeal? >> four years ago, i was traveling around having the same conversations governor romney is talking about, and it wasn't just that small businesses were seeing costs skyrocket and they couldn't get affordable coverage even if they wanted to provide it to employees. it wasn't because this was the biggest driver of the federal deficit, but it was families, who were worried about going bankrupt if they got sick. millions of families, all across the country. preexisting condition. might not we able to get coverage at all if they did have coverage, insurance companies might impose an arbitrary limit. so as a consequence, paying premiums, somebody
an economic crisis at the kitchen table and energy and passion for two years fighting for obama care instead of fighting for jobs for the american people. it has killed jobs, and the best course for health care is do what we did in my state. craft a machine at tplan at the that fits the needs of the state and focus on getting costs down for people, rather than raise it for a $2,500 additional premium. >> mr. president, the argument against repeal? >> four years ago, i was traveling...
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. >> in his 15th stop in virginia this year and later his 14th trip to battle ground ohio, mr. obama painted a picture of an economy that may not be growing as fast as we like, but is at least going in the right direction. >> today's news should give us some encouragement. it shouldn't be an excuse for the other side to try to talk down the economy, just to try to score a few political points. >> but with the labor survey showing just 114,000 jobs created last month the reduced unemployment rate came from different survey showed a huge jump of people working part-time or from their homes. some called it an anomaly and former ceo jack welch says these chicago guys will do anything, can't debate so change numbers. >> and who is participating, who's not working and who's tried to work, but dropped out. all of these things. it just raises the question, and i think there ought to be a good discussion how this number is calculated. >> labor secretary hilda so least angrily denied the unemployment figure was fudged calling the allegation offensive and republican challenger mitt romney
. >> in his 15th stop in virginia this year and later his 14th trip to battle ground ohio, mr. obama painted a picture of an economy that may not be growing as fast as we like, but is at least going in the right direction. >> today's news should give us some encouragement. it shouldn't be an excuse for the other side to try to talk down the economy, just to try to score a few political points. >> but with the labor survey showing just 114,000 jobs created last month the...
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>>reporter: president obama said he would cut the deficit in half this four years. that has not happened. he is vulnerable on a lot of the key issues. that will be a big part of this face off tonight. >>shepard: thank you, ed henry. as governor romney finishes the debate preparations in the city they are hitting his opponent over the comments from vice president biden. the romney camp calling the remarks about the middle class a stunning admission much he is a spokesman early here on fox news. >> we cannot afford four more years like the last four years we have seen under this president. his own vice president said the middle class has been buried under his policies. what we need is governor romney could come in and deliver a real recovery for the american people. >>shepard: romney campaign trying to capitalize on the remarks about the struggling of the middle class, a theme to be repeated, likely, over and over tonight. now, carl cameron live at the debate spin room. how will the governor romney hammer those comments of the vice president? >>carl: depends how the d
>>reporter: president obama said he would cut the deficit in half this four years. that has not happened. he is vulnerable on a lot of the key issues. that will be a big part of this face off tonight. >>shepard: thank you, ed henry. as governor romney finishes the debate preparations in the city they are hitting his opponent over the comments from vice president biden. the romney camp calling the remarks about the middle class a stunning admission much he is a spokesman early here...
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earth, because michelle obama agreed to marry me. i just want to wish you a happy anniversary and let you know that a year from now, we will not be celebrating it in front of 40 million people. four years ago, we went through the worst financial crisis since the great depression. the auto industry was on the brink of collapse. the financial system -- because of its resilience and the determination of the american people, we have begun to fight our way back. the auto industry has come roaring back and the economy has begun to rise. we all know we still have a lot of work to do. the question tonight is not where we have been, but where we are going. governor romney says that if we roll back regulations and cut back taxes, well, we will be better off. i have a different view. it is important to develop new sources of energy here in+ america, that we change our tax code to make sure we are helping small businesses and companies investing here in the united states, that we take some of the money we are setting as we wind down two wars, to
earth, because michelle obama agreed to marry me. i just want to wish you a happy anniversary and let you know that a year from now, we will not be celebrating it in front of 40 million people. four years ago, we went through the worst financial crisis since the great depression. the auto industry was on the brink of collapse. the financial system -- because of its resilience and the determination of the american people, we have begun to fight our way back. the auto industry has come roaring...
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in town with obama the whether obama should have dealt with him. it was one of the mono and obama fell short. >> the result is historical unique. in the 50 years of presidential debates, and nothing there has ever been a debate where there was such a decisive win in an absence of a gaff. if you have something like four with eastern europe, or others along the way, it is decisive. it is usually a muddled outcome, or just one bad moment, like i knew jack kennedy. there was not a sound bite in this. one other point, the moderator. i know jim lehrer has taken a lot of abuse because he lost control of the debate. we want the moderate enough to be in control. why should be in control of the debate? the debate ought to be about the participants. if the moderator ever in the future says, we have got to stop this and move on, i would like to hear one candidate say, why? besides we have to have six segments instead of five. >> the criticism of jim lehrer is -- from time to time, obama would look at him saying, help me, jim. mitt is not playing fair. >> in th
in town with obama the whether obama should have dealt with him. it was one of the mono and obama fell short. >> the result is historical unique. in the 50 years of presidential debates, and nothing there has ever been a debate where there was such a decisive win in an absence of a gaff. if you have something like four with eastern europe, or others along the way, it is decisive. it is usually a muddled outcome, or just one bad moment, like i knew jack kennedy. there was not a sound bite...
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>> that's always a danger and i think one of the great things that the obama campaign had four years ago is they didn't pay a lot of attention to all of this. they weren't watching all of these cable news shows and paying attention to the chattering class. the romney campaign is being buried by the media, not just the liberal media, but every media. look at all the polls it's not just "the washington post" and "new york times" polls, it's the fox polls, everything says this guy is going to lose. and if you're inside the campaign you got to just let all that clutter get out of your head and you have to not listen to it. you have to look at the fundamentals which are this is going to be a close election. obama has an advantage but at the end of the day the country is pretty evenly divided. >> folks on both sides of the aisle have talked about some of the challenges obama will have in the debates. hugh hewitt has a piece out in which he talks about one of obama's debate tales which is feigned outrage that someone would dare to interrupt him. he says when this happens, his coun ten nance
>> that's always a danger and i think one of the great things that the obama campaign had four years ago is they didn't pay a lot of attention to all of this. they weren't watching all of these cable news shows and paying attention to the chattering class. the romney campaign is being buried by the media, not just the liberal media, but every media. look at all the polls it's not just "the washington post" and "new york times" polls, it's the fox polls, everything says...